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	<title>Comments on: My experience with Rackspace Cloud Sites</title>
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	<description>Random thoughts</description>
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		<title>By: Jereme</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-131457</link>
		<dc:creator>Jereme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working on a backup script for Cloud Sites. You can check it out at http://zipitbackup.com

Hope that it helps.

Jereme</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working on a backup script for Cloud Sites. You can check it out at <a href="http://zipitbackup.com" rel="nofollow">http://zipitbackup.com</a></p>
<p>Hope that it helps.</p>
<p>Jereme</p>
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		<title>By: cateringtrailers</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-94298</link>
		<dc:creator>cateringtrailers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not particularly just a rackspace issue, but I am having a lot of problems with response from cloud servers. Google have made no secret of their taking response time into the algorithm. And 5-10 seconds for wordpress is clearly not on. And it comes and it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not particularly just a rackspace issue, but I am having a lot of problems with response from cloud servers. Google have made no secret of their taking response time into the algorithm. And 5-10 seconds for wordpress is clearly not on. And it comes and it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Primerano</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-85715</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Primerano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So….in reality..would you say that Rackspace Cloud Sites is nothing more than expensive glorified shared hosting??&quot;   

and crippled too,  with dreamhost I can ssh and rsync.  ;-)

To be fair they are better than Dreamhost because your code runs on several clusters, but when I was using it earlier this year the performance was miserable (over 4 seconds to return the 1st byte).  Hopefully it is fixed now but after spending hours on the phone with them and getting paged by my monitoring services at all hours of the night I had to move on.  

I LOVE their Cloud Servers product but Cloud Sites was a painful experience for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So….in reality..would you say that Rackspace Cloud Sites is nothing more than expensive glorified shared hosting??&#8221;   </p>
<p>and crippled too,  with dreamhost I can ssh and rsync.  <img src='http://blog.tonycode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To be fair they are better than Dreamhost because your code runs on several clusters, but when I was using it earlier this year the performance was miserable (over 4 seconds to return the 1st byte).  Hopefully it is fixed now but after spending hours on the phone with them and getting paged by my monitoring services at all hours of the night I had to move on.  </p>
<p>I LOVE their Cloud Servers product but Cloud Sites was a painful experience for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-85712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you have several clients it may be worth $149 but I found it slower and more prone to outages than a simple dreamhost account ($8/month) when I used it earlier this year,&quot;

That&#039;s really an interesting statement. I had tried cloud sites briefly and the backups as well as not being able to unzip on the server really scared me off. Not only are the initial installs a pain to FTP..but think about several security updates where you may have to update your applications. If they&#039;re just diff patches no big deal but if you a hundred or so it becomes a big deal really quickly. So much for scalability. 

So....in reality..would you say that Rackspace Cloud Sites is nothing more than expensive glorified shared hosting??

I&#039;m really looking for a single platform instead of having to manage multiple VPS&#039;s and going back to a shared reseller account (I&#039;m even reconsidering mediatemple gs again) along with one VPS for those special applications needing full server control seems like it might be the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you have several clients it may be worth $149 but I found it slower and more prone to outages than a simple dreamhost account ($8/month) when I used it earlier this year,&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really an interesting statement. I had tried cloud sites briefly and the backups as well as not being able to unzip on the server really scared me off. Not only are the initial installs a pain to <a href="http://FTP..but" rel="nofollow">http://FTP..but</a> think about several security updates where you may have to update your applications. If they&#8217;re just diff patches no big deal but if you a hundred or so it becomes a big deal really quickly. So much for scalability. </p>
<p>So&#8230;.in reality..would you say that Rackspace Cloud Sites is nothing more than expensive glorified shared hosting??</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really looking for a single platform instead of having to manage multiple VPS&#8217;s and going back to a shared reseller account (I&#8217;m even reconsidering mediatemple gs again) along with one VPS for those special applications needing full server control seems like it might be the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Primerano</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-81797</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Primerano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing EC2 to Cloud Sites is like comparing Apples and Oranges.   With EC2 (like Rackspace Cloud Servers) you get a virtual server that you can do anything you want with.

Cloud Sites is a PHP environment where they manage the hardware, load balancing and OS upgrades.  You just drop in your PHP code.  You can run 100s of sites for the $149 (assuming you don&#039;t go over the bandwidth limits which are high).

Cloud Sites is better for folks who don&#039;t want to deal with the OS setup/upgrades and scaling.  If you have several clients it may be worth $149 but I found it slower and more prone to outages than a simple dreamhost account ($8/month) when I used it earlier this year,

Cloud Sites has some nice features for billing clients and such but go to their site for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing EC2 to Cloud Sites is like comparing Apples and Oranges.   With EC2 (like Rackspace Cloud Servers) you get a virtual server that you can do anything you want with.</p>
<p>Cloud Sites is a PHP environment where they manage the hardware, load balancing and OS upgrades.  You just drop in your PHP code.  You can run 100s of sites for the $149 (assuming you don&#8217;t go over the bandwidth limits which are high).</p>
<p>Cloud Sites is better for folks who don&#8217;t want to deal with the OS setup/upgrades and scaling.  If you have several clients it may be worth $149 but I found it slower and more prone to outages than a simple dreamhost account ($8/month) when I used it earlier this year,</p>
<p>Cloud Sites has some nice features for billing clients and such but go to their site for details.</p>
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		<title>By: jinishans</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-81786</link>
		<dc:creator>jinishans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 06:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I&#039;m looking into RS Cloud Sites vs Azure vs Amazon EC2. 

In Azure 1 WebRole can be configured for 1 public website only. How about RackSpace Cloud Site ?

Say for example, if i go with RS Cloud Site, and have 1 a/c, for $149/month, can we host multiple sites in the same a/c...? 

Can we provide this 1 Cloud Site features to host websites to my customers ?

Can i provide the space/bandwidth to webhosting customers/Reseller hosting from my site..? 

Can i sell webhosting to individual customers thru my webhosting site hosted again in my same RS Cloud site ..?


Regards
JiniShans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking into RS Cloud Sites vs Azure vs Amazon EC2. </p>
<p>In Azure 1 WebRole can be configured for 1 public website only. How about RackSpace Cloud Site ?</p>
<p>Say for example, if i go with RS Cloud Site, and have 1 a/c, for $149/month, can we host multiple sites in the same a/c&#8230;? </p>
<p>Can we provide this 1 Cloud Site features to host websites to my customers ?</p>
<p>Can i provide the space/bandwidth to webhosting customers/Reseller hosting from my site..? </p>
<p>Can i sell webhosting to individual customers thru my webhosting site hosted again in my same RS Cloud site ..?</p>
<p>Regards<br />
JiniShans</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Primerano</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-65992</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Primerano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After 3 months of pain I moved everything back to cloud servers.   I&#039;m addition to the issues noted above I found the site performance unacceptable.  Many times the response time was over 4 seconds to get the 1st byte from a simple blog post.   When the times reached 10 seconds for the 1st byte I would spend hours in chat with the Rackers trying to track down the issue.   Eventually it would go away on its own.  

the basic issue is the machines (or network) is overloaded.   They add machines to their clusters based on phpinfo response times but that is an in-memory operation and is no indicative of website response time.

My monitoring services were pinging me constantly in early January so I started getting everything off Cloud Sites when it became clear that this was going to be the standard mode of operation.

I&#039;m sorry this didn&#039;t work out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 3 months of pain I moved everything back to cloud servers.   I&#8217;m addition to the issues noted above I found the site performance unacceptable.  Many times the response time was over 4 seconds to get the 1st byte from a simple blog post.   When the times reached 10 seconds for the 1st byte I would spend hours in chat with the Rackers trying to track down the issue.   Eventually it would go away on its own.  </p>
<p>the basic issue is the machines (or network) is overloaded.   They add machines to their clusters based on phpinfo response times but that is an in-memory operation and is no indicative of website response time.</p>
<p>My monitoring services were pinging me constantly in early January so I started getting everything off Cloud Sites when it became clear that this was going to be the standard mode of operation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry this didn&#8217;t work out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Primerano</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-62245</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Primerano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, you can setup cloud servers for as little as $11/month but you need to setup everything yourself (DB/PHP/Apache/accounts/security).   There are also hosting companies like Dreamhost that are about $8/month for as many sites as you want to create but they don&#039;t perform as well as cloudsites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, you can setup cloud servers for as little as $11/month but you need to setup everything yourself (DB/PHP/Apache/accounts/security).   There are also hosting companies like Dreamhost that are about $8/month for as many sites as you want to create but they don&#8217;t perform as well as cloudsites.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-62229</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tony - I share your frustration with Rackspace Cloud Sites, and the current inability to do a decent backup.

I too host many WP sites.  I&#039;m interested in this - how do you set the site up in RS servers (as opposed to sites)?  Any cost difference?

Thanks - Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tony &#8211; I share your frustration with Rackspace Cloud Sites, and the current inability to do a decent backup.</p>
<p>I too host many WP sites.  I&#8217;m interested in this &#8211; how do you set the site up in RS servers (as opposed to sites)?  Any cost difference?</p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://blog.tonycode.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-61938</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have about 20 domains on Cloud sites.  Sure I could do it somewhere else for less than half as they are all small sites.  Service and question response have always been awesome but I have routine weirdness from the cloud sites that I don&#039;t seem to experience anywhere else, esp around mysql.  It was a good experiment but the lack of a public facing API for the Cloudsites control panel would be nice for self self signup/billing.  I am moving to a dedicated box (probably should have in the first place) to get the controls I want to get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have about 20 domains on Cloud sites.  Sure I could do it somewhere else for less than half as they are all small sites.  Service and question response have always been awesome but I have routine weirdness from the cloud sites that I don&#8217;t seem to experience anywhere else, esp around mysql.  It was a good experiment but the lack of a public facing API for the Cloudsites control panel would be nice for self self signup/billing.  I am moving to a dedicated box (probably should have in the first place) to get the controls I want to get.</p>
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